Subheader could also be: “Writing about this topic with comments open as a way to give everyone a chance to experience how that work meeting felt (and perhaps do a battle simulation)”.
I don’t think either men or women are taught, hence don’t easily understand, how men become healthily socialized en masse, and the sunset of the democracies of the world and the cynical compartmentalization of public information (abstracted from either books or knowledge, yet also ceasing to be free, while rewarding bad sources) means young men flow towards modern niche network interests and online peer group connections of whatever sort as a very compelled innate search for any honest-seeming or self-reinforcing connections.
For the most part all humans, and certainly young men, are difficult to reach by direct confrontation with explicit behavioral instructions (even if this process and the instructions for them are correct in their substance). With only very rare exceptions, humans are psychologically steered by social cues and a socially public self, which gets much less durable and flexible as self esteem and the mental and cultural health of a society steadily descends into gloomily permeating ongoing difficulties.
When they lose a clear sense of purpose and feel confused or embarrassed about their social roles, the direct shaming of anxious young men (more so than for guys into their 30s onwards) becomes for them psychologically distressing. Humans evolved to protect their social role in community networks, so when there is no recognized safe social role for young men in the first place, nor do we leave a respite for men to have a chance to feel absolved as a member of their community or society, we will arrive at the current ordeal, compounded by too many other world crises as well.
Massive numbers of men spend too much time talking to each other online about every possible interest and grievance, a development that isn’t useful or productive, but it’s the main social venue where guys casually encounter each other now. Instead better for men to space out the time and density of their chosen society, and have time and tasks where they’re temporarily alone with their thoughts and some responsibilities which overall demonstrate where necessary and honestly that they do something with self evident public merit or contribution to society (not fast/lazy online money, not all the scams of this entire era lol), and being in proximity to healthy male leaders and people who inspire wise self improvement.
Healthy leadership of men is partially just unconscious non toxic masculinity signaling which knows to direct/encourage individuals and groups in a way that reinforces both peer trust and sane camaraderie, and also fosters individual self esteem and self respect—this then gives rise to the qualities and psychological space demanded of men (or they feel is demanded of them).
In other times you had regular mass endeavors of every kind of labor, military, sailing, empire, colonialism, war, exploration, and so on, which put a yoke on many and gave a structure or enforced servitude to others. In a lot of past societies, a majority of men did not actually even mate or reproduce. Like every issue for basically everyone on Earth now, single young men’s mental self conception includes collective online active knowledge of these statistics. So they fold as another layer of mentally unskillful information cascade. Too bad the billionaires aren’t really the interstellar space commanders they pretend to be, as you can see from the followers they still get anyway that could it ever be a reality, enormous amounts of young men would actually launch and do it I think. It can’t really happen though, so… be cool, everybody.
(Also not saying dudes can’t go online or socialize, just that being “too online” is toxic in general, and when men get together in groups online and commiserate in hard times like these, many bleaker things naturally take on a momentum of their own, often not even on purpose, as in a void young guys fall into the dynamic of demonstrating a group bond by outdoing each other in rounds of escalation—it’s why groups of teenage boys and men in their early 20s can be so violent, it becomes this kind of impulsive ritual, and it’s what toxic masculinity structures manipulate and direct on purpose)
Males have been waging a war on women for centuries.
Women get a chance for a little pushback, and now males collapse into a puddle a victimhood.
What a load of bullshit. Tell the girls in Afghanistan about how poor and sad moids like you are. Tell women carrying dead fetuses in Texas how poor the males are. Tell women in China (the ones who survived the one-child purge) that males are sad. Tell women in US prisons forced to share their cells with male rapists in wigs about sad males. Why would any woman want to have children in this world? Yes, this is zero sum.
There is no "both sides" here. "The FeMiNiSmS are bad too!"--No, we don't shoot males in the head as they're walking to school. Males are just beginning to get called out, over the littlest things, and even that is too much.
A list of real and serious problems facing women is not evidence that half of the world's population (~ 4 billion males) is a unified collective "waging war" on the other half. Is the gender-apartheid Taliban in cahoots with American LGBTQ activists to funnel transexuals into women's prisons? Are pro-life Christians in Texas sharing tactics with atheist communists in China who forced women into having abortions? Obviously, as any reading of history or evolutionary biology or even just today's newspaper will tell you, men are not acting in concert with other men everywhere. For example, it was predominantly men who went to war with the Taliban and improved the lives (for a while) of Afghanistan's girls, not feminist brigades armed with internet invective.
The point of what I wrote is that men should not be embracing victimhood, that we should not be engaging in grievance wars, but that problems like the ones you mentioned (as well as the issues facing men) should be addressed together, in a spirit of non–zero-sum mutual sympathy. It's worth pausing again to mention that there are ~ 4 billion males in the world and ~ 4 billion females. Are we going to solve any problems by making enemies of the other half of the species? Is blaming a directionless young American man for girls getting shot as they're walking to school in Afghanistan really going to make him more sympathetic to women's rights globally? One reason (among many) that we should want to have children in this world is for the cognitive empathy it engenders.
Yes, the problem is male behavior. That is the univesality here.
The men who run the CCP, the men who run the Taliban, trannies in the US--the systems are run by men. That is who wages the war against women.
This isn't complicated.
Go talk to those men; don't rely on BUT WE'RE NOT ALL BAD! as though it protects you from being called out.
Idgaf about "directionless American men" or if they feel sympathy for Afghan or American girls for that matter. That's not even what I ask for. I'm literally asking males to stay out of women's swimming competitions. And that's still asking too much!
Women like me don't force them to play video games and watch porn all day. We literally have to file lawsuits to keep males out of girls' bathrooms.
Please spare me your fake moral stance as if you care about empathy. Go tell Andrew Tate (or as I call him, Andrew Rape) about your moral ideas and tell the men who pay 80 dollars a month for Hustlers University. Males like you spend lots of time preaching to women who point out problems rather than to the men who actually cause them.
If you care, go solve the problem. Don't start crying about how you're not all bad. I don't care.
Cisgendered females are going to have to learn that transsexual women are real (the most real) women. Cis female bigotry will no longer be tolerated! Tired of the cis and how they have destroyed civilization.
Men understand that the game is zero sum. They had it great when they could beat their wives to death legally (look up "paterfamilias" in the Roman Empire).
Now they can't. They know they've lost out.
Men have pitted themselves against women forever. It's nothing new.
Go talk to the Taliban and tell them about your great ideas. Don't tell me.
Subheader could also be: “Writing about this topic with comments open as a way to give everyone a chance to experience how that work meeting felt (and perhaps do a battle simulation)”.
I don’t think either men or women are taught, hence don’t easily understand, how men become healthily socialized en masse, and the sunset of the democracies of the world and the cynical compartmentalization of public information (abstracted from either books or knowledge, yet also ceasing to be free, while rewarding bad sources) means young men flow towards modern niche network interests and online peer group connections of whatever sort as a very compelled innate search for any honest-seeming or self-reinforcing connections.
For the most part all humans, and certainly young men, are difficult to reach by direct confrontation with explicit behavioral instructions (even if this process and the instructions for them are correct in their substance). With only very rare exceptions, humans are psychologically steered by social cues and a socially public self, which gets much less durable and flexible as self esteem and the mental and cultural health of a society steadily descends into gloomily permeating ongoing difficulties.
When they lose a clear sense of purpose and feel confused or embarrassed about their social roles, the direct shaming of anxious young men (more so than for guys into their 30s onwards) becomes for them psychologically distressing. Humans evolved to protect their social role in community networks, so when there is no recognized safe social role for young men in the first place, nor do we leave a respite for men to have a chance to feel absolved as a member of their community or society, we will arrive at the current ordeal, compounded by too many other world crises as well.
Massive numbers of men spend too much time talking to each other online about every possible interest and grievance, a development that isn’t useful or productive, but it’s the main social venue where guys casually encounter each other now. Instead better for men to space out the time and density of their chosen society, and have time and tasks where they’re temporarily alone with their thoughts and some responsibilities which overall demonstrate where necessary and honestly that they do something with self evident public merit or contribution to society (not fast/lazy online money, not all the scams of this entire era lol), and being in proximity to healthy male leaders and people who inspire wise self improvement.
Healthy leadership of men is partially just unconscious non toxic masculinity signaling which knows to direct/encourage individuals and groups in a way that reinforces both peer trust and sane camaraderie, and also fosters individual self esteem and self respect—this then gives rise to the qualities and psychological space demanded of men (or they feel is demanded of them).
In other times you had regular mass endeavors of every kind of labor, military, sailing, empire, colonialism, war, exploration, and so on, which put a yoke on many and gave a structure or enforced servitude to others. In a lot of past societies, a majority of men did not actually even mate or reproduce. Like every issue for basically everyone on Earth now, single young men’s mental self conception includes collective online active knowledge of these statistics. So they fold as another layer of mentally unskillful information cascade. Too bad the billionaires aren’t really the interstellar space commanders they pretend to be, as you can see from the followers they still get anyway that could it ever be a reality, enormous amounts of young men would actually launch and do it I think. It can’t really happen though, so… be cool, everybody.
(Also not saying dudes can’t go online or socialize, just that being “too online” is toxic in general, and when men get together in groups online and commiserate in hard times like these, many bleaker things naturally take on a momentum of their own, often not even on purpose, as in a void young guys fall into the dynamic of demonstrating a group bond by outdoing each other in rounds of escalation—it’s why groups of teenage boys and men in their early 20s can be so violent, it becomes this kind of impulsive ritual, and it’s what toxic masculinity structures manipulate and direct on purpose)
Males have been waging a war on women for centuries.
Women get a chance for a little pushback, and now males collapse into a puddle a victimhood.
What a load of bullshit. Tell the girls in Afghanistan about how poor and sad moids like you are. Tell women carrying dead fetuses in Texas how poor the males are. Tell women in China (the ones who survived the one-child purge) that males are sad. Tell women in US prisons forced to share their cells with male rapists in wigs about sad males. Why would any woman want to have children in this world? Yes, this is zero sum.
There is no "both sides" here. "The FeMiNiSmS are bad too!"--No, we don't shoot males in the head as they're walking to school. Males are just beginning to get called out, over the littlest things, and even that is too much.
Get back to Call of Duty and internet porn now.
A list of real and serious problems facing women is not evidence that half of the world's population (~ 4 billion males) is a unified collective "waging war" on the other half. Is the gender-apartheid Taliban in cahoots with American LGBTQ activists to funnel transexuals into women's prisons? Are pro-life Christians in Texas sharing tactics with atheist communists in China who forced women into having abortions? Obviously, as any reading of history or evolutionary biology or even just today's newspaper will tell you, men are not acting in concert with other men everywhere. For example, it was predominantly men who went to war with the Taliban and improved the lives (for a while) of Afghanistan's girls, not feminist brigades armed with internet invective.
The point of what I wrote is that men should not be embracing victimhood, that we should not be engaging in grievance wars, but that problems like the ones you mentioned (as well as the issues facing men) should be addressed together, in a spirit of non–zero-sum mutual sympathy. It's worth pausing again to mention that there are ~ 4 billion males in the world and ~ 4 billion females. Are we going to solve any problems by making enemies of the other half of the species? Is blaming a directionless young American man for girls getting shot as they're walking to school in Afghanistan really going to make him more sympathetic to women's rights globally? One reason (among many) that we should want to have children in this world is for the cognitive empathy it engenders.
Yes, the problem is male behavior. That is the univesality here.
The men who run the CCP, the men who run the Taliban, trannies in the US--the systems are run by men. That is who wages the war against women.
This isn't complicated.
Go talk to those men; don't rely on BUT WE'RE NOT ALL BAD! as though it protects you from being called out.
Idgaf about "directionless American men" or if they feel sympathy for Afghan or American girls for that matter. That's not even what I ask for. I'm literally asking males to stay out of women's swimming competitions. And that's still asking too much!
Women like me don't force them to play video games and watch porn all day. We literally have to file lawsuits to keep males out of girls' bathrooms.
Please spare me your fake moral stance as if you care about empathy. Go tell Andrew Tate (or as I call him, Andrew Rape) about your moral ideas and tell the men who pay 80 dollars a month for Hustlers University. Males like you spend lots of time preaching to women who point out problems rather than to the men who actually cause them.
If you care, go solve the problem. Don't start crying about how you're not all bad. I don't care.
Cisgendered females are going to have to learn that transsexual women are real (the most real) women. Cis female bigotry will no longer be tolerated! Tired of the cis and how they have destroyed civilization.
He can tell people to avoid the truth.
It won't work.
Men understand that the game is zero sum. They had it great when they could beat their wives to death legally (look up "paterfamilias" in the Roman Empire).
Now they can't. They know they've lost out.
Men have pitted themselves against women forever. It's nothing new.
Go talk to the Taliban and tell them about your great ideas. Don't tell me.