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Subheader could also be: “Writing about this topic with comments open as a way to give everyone a chance to experience how that work meeting felt (and perhaps do a battle simulation)”.

I don’t think either men or women are taught, hence don’t easily understand, how men become healthily socialized en masse, and the sunset of the democracies of the world and the cynical compartmentalization of public information (abstracted from either books or knowledge, yet also ceasing to be free, while rewarding bad sources) means young men flow towards modern niche network interests and online peer group connections of whatever sort as a very compelled innate search for any honest-seeming or self-reinforcing connections.

For the most part all humans, and certainly young men, are difficult to reach by direct confrontation with explicit behavioral instructions (even if this process and the instructions for them are correct in their substance). With only very rare exceptions, humans are psychologically steered by social cues and a socially public self, which gets much less durable and flexible as self esteem and the mental and cultural health of a society steadily descends into gloomily permeating ongoing difficulties.

When they lose a clear sense of purpose and feel confused or embarrassed about their social roles, the direct shaming of anxious young men (more so than for guys into their 30s onwards) becomes for them psychologically distressing. Humans evolved to protect their social role in community networks, so when there is no recognized safe social role for young men in the first place, nor do we leave a respite for men to have a chance to feel absolved as a member of their community or society, we will arrive at the current ordeal, compounded by too many other world crises as well.

Massive numbers of men spend too much time talking to each other online about every possible interest and grievance, a development that isn’t useful or productive, but it’s the main social venue where guys casually encounter each other now. Instead better for men to space out the time and density of their chosen society, and have time and tasks where they’re temporarily alone with their thoughts and some responsibilities which overall demonstrate where necessary and honestly that they do something with self evident public merit or contribution to society (not fast/lazy online money, not all the scams of this entire era lol), and being in proximity to healthy male leaders and people who inspire wise self improvement.

Healthy leadership of men is partially just unconscious non toxic masculinity signaling which knows to direct/encourage individuals and groups in a way that reinforces both peer trust and sane camaraderie, and also fosters individual self esteem and self respect—this then gives rise to the qualities and psychological space demanded of men (or they feel is demanded of them).

In other times you had regular mass endeavors of every kind of labor, military, sailing, empire, colonialism, war, exploration, and so on, which put a yoke on many and gave a structure or enforced servitude to others. In a lot of past societies, a majority of men did not actually even mate or reproduce. Like every issue for basically everyone on Earth now, single young men’s mental self conception includes collective online active knowledge of these statistics. So they fold as another layer of mentally unskillful information cascade. Too bad the billionaires aren’t really the interstellar space commanders they pretend to be, as you can see from the followers they still get anyway that could it ever be a reality, enormous amounts of young men would actually launch and do it I think. It can’t really happen though, so… be cool, everybody.

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Kat Highsmith's avatar

Males have been waging a war on women for centuries.

Women get a chance for a little pushback, and now males collapse into a puddle a victimhood.

What a load of bullshit. Tell the girls in Afghanistan about how poor and sad moids like you are. Tell women carrying dead fetuses in Texas how poor the males are. Tell women in China (the ones who survived the one-child purge) that males are sad. Tell women in US prisons forced to share their cells with male rapists in wigs about sad males. Why would any woman want to have children in this world? Yes, this is zero sum.

There is no "both sides" here. "The FeMiNiSmS are bad too!"--No, we don't shoot males in the head as they're walking to school. Males are just beginning to get called out, over the littlest things, and even that is too much.

Get back to Call of Duty and internet porn now.

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