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Ariel Beery's avatar

Yes!! My take is Zionism is Judaism, a movement that integrated into Judaism just as the Rabbinic movement did years ago: https://seekprophecy.substack.com/p/beyond-zionism

I'm working on an article now that argues that the term Zionism, when used in Israel by Israelis, actually limits Israel's potential and thereby works against the vision of the Zionist thinkers.

Great piece - thank you for writing it.

Daisy Moses Chief Crackpot's avatar

Yes but no....

There are now 48 kinds of Zionism an' I'll say that's only HALF-jokin' -

https://www.futureofjewish.com/p/the-48-types-of-zionism

'fore Israel got her statehood Zionism mean "Israel as a jooish state, joos git self-determination" an' most everybuddy agreed with that--EVEN the Reform Anti-Zionists that changed their tune after WWII.

If we pare it down ta that, it should be a poifectly GOOD term with a finite but helpful daffynition. Problem is... many in this cwazy welt don' wanna honor Israel's statehood--they are the "zionist entity" or "IsraHell" or NOT EVEN on the MAP of Fallastine.

If/when g-d willin'--Israel's stated hood is accepted universally, no label of "zionist" will be needed... We ain't there yet.. we should be after 75+ years...'nther story.

More verbiage is not needed. Of course Israelis are Israelis, Jews are Jews, an' most are "pro-Israel" an' if Zionism didn't now have 48 meanin's like ketchup ingredients we'd all agree. The original daffynition did not delineate terrytories--wuz not granular. Me? I think Judea & Samaria belong as "am Israel"--has ancient meanin' fer "our people" an' a hist'ry an' jooze in it. But we don't need ta tease that out.

I think cumbersum' labels ain't needed--let's CLEARLY go back ta one simple definition (the original) of Zionism--not "political" not "religious"--an' once the world recognizes Israel let's make it (as intended) the proper name fer a movement, a hope, a mission accomplished. One word, one scenty-mint--it would'a been enuf!

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